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4/10/2022 11:07 pm  #611


Re: National Dashball League

Hollywood plan FTW



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4/11/2022 10:31 am  #612


Re: National Dashball League

I'm always intrigued by different takes on the playoffs across different leagues. It would be a tough thing to get used to but it is an oddly fair way of doing it, let's see that Hollywood plan in action. I hope Boston gets to be more competitive and can stick around, heck I just want most the league to get more competitive. 


 

4/11/2022 7:53 pm  #613


Re: National Dashball League

I like the Hollywood Plan. I've thought CFB could do something similar, with every undefeated team making it, but then the best teams with loses filling in to make an even bracket.

 

4/13/2022 10:59 am  #614


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I don't really get further complicating something for teams who can win half their games. The criteria was top 8 and LA wasn't top 8, simple as that. I like the idea in general because it is different, but the LA owner crying over it isn't helping his cause.



 

4/13/2022 12:04 pm  #615


Re: National Dashball League

Imagine getting into the playoffs just because you have one more w than your ls

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4/13/2022 1:05 pm  #616


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ThisIsFine wrote:

Imagine getting into the playoffs just because you have one more w than your ls

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Imagine making it into the playoffs with more Ls than Ws. I would argue that a 9th best team with a winning record one season is more deserving than an 8th best team with a losing record in a another. The Hollywood Plan, although with its own set of flaws, still rewards the best teams with the playoffs. A team that "handles their own business" makes the playoffs on their own merit.



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4/13/2022 2:56 pm  #617


Re: National Dashball League

Dan O'Mac wrote:

ThisIsFine wrote:

Imagine getting into the playoffs just because you have one more w than your ls

This post was made by Anti-Hollywood Plan Gang

Imagine making it into the playoffs with more Ls than Ws. I would argue that a 9th best team with a winning record one season is more deserving than an 8th best team with a losing record in a another. The Hollywood Plan, although with its own set of flaws, still rewards the best teams with the playoffs. A team that "handles their own business" makes the playoffs on their own merit.

I am not 100% on game schedule but couldn't this system DQ a team in a division that's pretty even outside of a powerhouse filling the top seed? Records don't really reflect a team's talent if they have to play better talent more consistently just because the divisions are set that way.
If the NDL is structured so everyone gets a fair shot at every team, then I 100% get it (like the AltHL). But if it's more like the NHL, I can't see why a league would go through with that headache. If this rule was presented in a league like the NHL, then it feels similar to saying the Golden Knights deserve a spot more than the Jets just because one has a winning record and the other doesn't, but that doesn't equate to how the two compare based on skill.
Not trying to make grasps at air and I know the example doesn't line up 1 to 1, but that was the closest thing I had to ground the idea in real life so I could process the possible pros/cons. It is a good brain exercise. I say try it but use it as a safety net that comes after two spots being locked in for every division.



 

4/13/2022 8:39 pm  #618


Re: National Dashball League

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4/13/2022 8:51 pm  #619


Re: National Dashball League

Dan O'Mac wrote:

Imagine making it into the playoffs with more Ls than Ws. I would argue that a 9th best team with a winning record one season is more deserving than an 8th best team with a losing record in a another. The Hollywood Plan, although with its own set of flaws, still rewards the best teams with the playoffs. A team that "handles their own business" makes the playoffs on their own merit.

Thehealthiestscratch wrote:

I am not 100% on game schedule but couldn't this system DQ a team in a division that's pretty even outside of a powerhouse filling the top seed? Records don't really reflect a team's talent if they have to play better talent more consistently just because the divisions are set that way.
If the NDL is structured so everyone gets a fair shot at every team, then I 100% get it (like the AltHL). But if it's more like the NHL, I can't see why a league would go through with that headache. If this rule was presented in a league like the NHL, then it feels similar to saying the Golden Knights deserve a spot more than the Jets just because one has a winning record and the other doesn't, but that doesn't equate to how the two compare based on skill.
Not trying to make grasps at air and I know the example doesn't line up 1 to 1, but that was the closest thing I had to ground the idea in real life so I could process the possible pros/cons. It is a good brain exercise. I say try it but use it as a safety net that comes after two spots being locked in for every division.

Yeah, you guys have hit on a lot of the points in the pro and con arguments. I will say, Scratch, that the schedule isn't completely balanced, but each team does play every other team at least four times, so I don't think it's particularly unbalanced in the way that a lot of other major sports are.

I think there's certainly a valid point that this might leave otherwise-undeserving teams out of the playoffs with a record that's just below .500. But the current system does too! Personally, I tend to agree with Dan here and say that I'd rather give an extra playoff spot to a team that performs well than try to acquiesce to a team that's the eighth-best team in the league at 32-34, but that's just me.

Also, while I'm on the subject, the top two teams in each division aren't necessarily guaranteed to make the playoffs as is! The four division winners get automatic berths, but then it's just the four next best teams. That said, I do think that if and when the Hollywood Plan returns, it'll almost certainly come with some guidelines to prevent it from getting too out of hand (theoretically, every team could finish perfectly at .500 and then no teams would make the playoffs. It'd never happen, but it could.).

Anyway, thanks for all the comments! It's been really cool to see people discussing this and debating pros and cons. Happy reading, and I'll see you in part 3???

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4/18/2022 4:52 pm  #620


Re: National Dashball League

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