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4/09/2020 11:04 pm  #101


Re: AltHL - Owner Draft and Beyond

I am going to present two arenas, one that will be used during our legacy project up until the end of the 2013 season, and then they will jump to the new arena.

Winnipeg Coliseum (1972-2013)
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Opened in 1970, the 15,750 seat arena started hosting the Arrows back in 1972. The arena is a fairly old-school build. The old centre is pretty much the bare minimum for a hockey rink, with fairly typical vendors, a super small team store and boring concrete walls eventually painted in team colours. 

Red River Arena (2014-Present):
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In 2014, a new arena opened at The Forks for the Arrows. Red River Arena, named for the city's famous river, features a combination of retro style with modern. Tying together the older building styles at the forks with the new Canadian Museum of Human Rights which it opened alongside of. Some of the outer arena has the look of older Winnipeg buildings and then the side facing North starts to change into all glass (similar to that of US Bank Stadium, but combined with the CM of Human Rights) with a point that takes aim to the North.

Inside the arena is now much larger at 18,721 seats and has much more to offer. Plenty of local vendors have opportunities to be in the arena for game day, with a "Forks feature" allowing smaller vendors to hold the spots or a few games. The team and arena are about bringing the city and community together and this arena will do as much of that as it can.

The atmosphere during games is always exciting. The city loves this team more than a lot of things. The extra fans in the arena make it even louder and harder for visiting teams to play here. Fans have often been called the "Arrowheads" based on both the team name and the sometimes crazy passion that the fans have. This turns into merch much like the Packer's "Cheeseheads" but instead an Arrowhead. During the playoffs, the party isn't just in the arena. The arena features outside screens in which the game can be broadcast and fans will get together to watch the game with a street party, which also happens during away playoff games as well.


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4/09/2020 11:58 pm  #102


Re: AltHL - Owner Draft and Beyond

Built in 1993 amongst the "new-arena boom" as well as the emergency of the Bay Area music scene, the Nine Counties Center (NCC for short) was built specifically to provide the best acoustic and visual experience possible for all its events.  From Dragons hockey to other sports to the VAST array of concerts, the 20,000-seat NCC was built with the fan in mind, foregoing the numerous luxury boxes for seats where the average fan can cheer on their Dragons

In addition to its industry-acclaimed sound system, the NCC also has a high-tech propane flame system at each corner of the scoreboard.  Whenever the Dragons score a goal, the four corners shoot their flames, one after the other, and whenever they win a game, all four corners shoot off at once, giving way for the names of the Three Stars to be spelled out in similar-looking orange fireworks.


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4/10/2020 12:33 am  #103


Re: AltHL - Owner Draft and Beyond

Burmy87 wrote:

In addition to its industry-acclaimed sound system, the NCC also has a high-tech propane flame system at each corner of the scoreboard.  Whenever the Dragons score a goal, the four corners shoot their flames, one after the other, and whenever they win a game, all four corners shoot off at once, giving way for the names of the Three Stars to be spelled out in similar-looking orange fireworks.

 
Not every team gets to say they have a pyrotechnic staff on payroll. I like it!


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4/10/2020 1:23 am  #104


Re: AltHL - Owner Draft and Beyond

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The Halifax Kingfishers play at Halcyon Centre, a cozy 17,000 seat arena located in downtown Halifax. The arena is tight, known for being loud and raucous and with frequent sell-out crowds all chanting obscenities at opposing players. It is comparable to Bridgestone Arena for its infrastructure and loud fans and Bell-MTS Place for its architectural design and intimate style. The brick exterior is iconic and the general structure is built halfway into the ground.

The Halcyon Centre is known as "The Cavern" which is so-named because kingfishers actually build burrows instead of nests as well as the design of the building being sunk into a half-hill. Haligonians embody the spirit of the "Cavern" and there is a rabid group of super fans called the "Dweller Kings" who typically are shirtless and dress like cavemen or Sasquatch combined with masks and crowns of colorful bird feathers along with crazy face paint patterns. The Dwellers are also known for their obscenities and sometimes general violence. A point of pride among the Dwellers is how many times they've been arrested for disorderly conduct.

The Halcyon Centre is also home to some of the best seafood on the Atlantic Coast, with a variety of award-winning vendors on every level. It wouldn't be true Halifax without a bar on every corner and The Cavern takes the cake with their numerous hole-in-the-wall pubs that are built into the arena. The arena has state-of-the-art sound and pyrotechnic systems which are used to their fullest home ice advantage to induce a wild and wooly environment.

I'm envisioning something like the Hartford Whalers old goal horn + "Fall, Goliath, Fall" by Project 86 for goals scored. The chorus includes a line "Lift the head of the giant To celebrate our defiance" so the fans all lift their arms upward with their palms up and hands curved open as if they were holding up a basketball to symbolize the giant's head of their fallen foes while shouting the chorus, "Fall, Goliath, Fall!"


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4/10/2020 2:19 am  #105


Re: AltHL - Owner Draft and Beyond

CCLXXXVII wrote:

Gonna ask real quick, is there a way that we can access all the logo files of our team? I'm gonna make an arena graphic but I want a high quality logo for the image.

There's a folder link in the uniforms thread that has all the team logos in it.


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4/10/2020 7:39 am  #106


Re: AltHL - Owner Draft and Beyond

Since 1997, the Quebec Owls played in the sophisticatedly-named La Patinoire Provinciale (the Provincial Ice Rink). Before construction, it was almost named the Colisée de Stadacona after the Iroquois settlement in the 16th century located not far from present-day Quebec. The Owls fandom wanted the management to carry over the name from the previous Provincial Ice Rink that was built in 1970 because it represented the classiness of the rink, as well as Quebec City's Francophone connection.

The exterior look of the home arena takes queues from the military forts located in Quebec, most notably the Ramparts of Quebec City and the Citadelle of Quebec. It's not a surprise that it was made out of a combination of bricks, steel and concrete to create the feeling of entering a building that once housed soldiers during the age of colonisation while maintaining the modern appearance needed to stand out against other arenas in the AltHL. Once the visitors enter the rink, they'll be awed at the size that can hold up to 18,000 proud fans cheering loudly for the Owls. The city flag of Quebec City hangs up on the rafters alongside the flag of Quebec, Canada and USA. There are subtle references added inside the arena during the renovation (mostly in reference of FC Macbeth's heritage and nationality), but the most well-known was the words painted on the 'fort gate' entrance. On the left side on the wall was the lyrics to the classic Kadazan song Sayang Kinabalu translated in French, with the original Malay lyrics (along with English) placed on the bottom of the translation. Likewise, on the right side of the wall was the words of the French Canadian song Vive la Canadienne translated into Malay, with the original French lyrics located beneath the translation.

Unique to La Patinoire Provinciale was the four pubs located on the four corners of the rink. Every time the hockey game is coming, the Owls fandom flock in to drink beer and eat some food while enjoying hockey at the same. This often caused the noise to erupt outside the pub (especially after winning), which may cause a nuisance to people who walk passed the building. The rest was typical for hockey arenas to build with. Local food vendors are serving poutine, tourtières and other Quebecois cuisines. Meanwhile, the team's merch shop sells replica jerseys, hockey sticks and a plush toy of an owl wearing the Owl's jersey which were popular amongst children as a memento of what Le Hiboux stood for. For larger games, a huge jumbotron was displayed for nightly party events.


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4/10/2020 9:24 am  #107


Re: AltHL - Owner Draft and Beyond

Vancouver Civic Auditorium
1955 - 2018


The Vancouver Civic Auditorium, built in 1955 and renovated over the years, has been the home of the Vancouver Glaciers since their inception. Several renovations have taken place over the years, however the arena eventually became too costly to repair and was just too small to house the Glaciers anymore. The Aud has played host to some classic games over the years, including the legendary tilt which resulted in goalie Ron Hextall dropping the gloves, leading him to Glaciers lore.

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After much debate between team, city and province, a new arena was agreed upon and set to open for the start of the 2018 Season. The naming rights were given to Tim Hortons and thus, the Tim Hortons Centre was born.
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"The Mug" as it has been nicknamed by fans, features an all glass exterior which allows fans outside to see directly into the concourse and stands. Featuring a mall attached to the East side of the building, the complex is a massive hit and features several restaurants and bars for fans to enjoy pre and post game. On the front lawn of the arena is a massive Tim Hortons sign that glows red in the night and stands 10 feet tall.

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4/10/2020 9:39 am  #108


Re: AltHL - Owner Draft and Beyond

Thehealthiestscratch wrote:

Burmy87 wrote:

In addition to its industry-acclaimed sound system, the NCC also has a high-tech propane flame system at each corner of the scoreboard.  Whenever the Dragons score a goal, the four corners shoot their flames, one after the other, and whenever they win a game, all four corners shoot off at once, giving way for the names of the Three Stars to be spelled out in similar-looking orange fireworks.

 
Not every team gets to say they have a pyrotechnic staff on payroll. I like it!

The Terriers have white scoreboard smoke effects when the team enters the rink or wins a game, but I think every team does that.
 


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4/10/2020 11:27 am  #109


Re: AltHL - Owner Draft and Beyond

[TERRIERS LORE TIME]

The Kennel Crew is well known as one of the most loyal fanbases in hockey, but of course, every fandom has to have a hatedom. However, the Terriers hatedom is unique, because the hatedom extends beyond the typical rival fan, and includes people who don’t even like hockey. Why? Because of the outrageous stunts they pull to mock enemies before games. Most are unbelievable, some have pretty expensive consequences. Here are some of the more infamous stunts by the organization...

*@ New York, 2020 The team is forced to pay a hefty fine by the borough of Manhattan for  hosting a fan event involving dropping a cake that looked like a gargoyle from the Chrysler Building. Not only did it make a massive mess of the sidewalk, It also had the potential to pose danger to pedestrians when it was dropped. A video clip of a fan scaling a safety barrier to eat the disintegrated remains of the cake and then being dragged away by security guards has become an Internet meme.

*vs. Vancouver, 2012 Before a 1:30 game on an abnormally sunny spring day, The Terriers allowed fans to watch sculptors carve a massive block of ice into the team’s secondary logo. Two hours later, after the T-dogs lose the game, fans exit to find the streets soaked with water. The statue melted. Like the last incident, the Terriers were fined heavily for the incident.

vs. Halifax, 2001 The Terriers play a video of a teal and orange submarine preparing to torpedo a passenger ship, but getting blown up with a machine gun on the ship manned by live animal mascot Dukie. The video offended a lot of people, but no one can agree why. Some think it’s disrespectful to survivors of torpedo disasters, and some think it’s disrespectful to naval veterans. Either way, when they meet again in Halifax later that season, the Kingfishers fans pelt the Dogs with stuffed submarine dolls.

If people care about this enough, I’ll make a part two.


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4/10/2020 1:22 pm  #110


Re: AltHL - Owner Draft and Beyond

Thehealthiestscratch wrote:

JamHeronArk wrote:

Built in the early 1980s as a replacement for the aging Stampede Corral, Calgary Gardens is unique among hockey venues, as it is outdoors. Its multipurpose nature means that it can host almost every conceivable sport. The stadium is filled with burnt orange on game nights, with a surprisingly large percentage of the crowd wearing 10-gallon hats to boot. The western aura is embraced here, where the prairie meets the mountains.
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Holy maintenance cost.

Did some digging

According to Ice Rink Events (the main supplier of seasonal ice rinks in North America), the cost to install an 85′ x 200′ ice rink would be in the neighborhood of $850,000, including $150,000 for a refrigeration unit that will ensure quality ice for the players.

Organizers are basically paying several hundred thousand dollars for the first minute of ice, and then 50 cents for each subsequent minute of use.

Based on this, check out these numbers.
6 months (lets just say this is the season)
30 days per (We will call 30 even)
24 hours
60 mins per
.50 a minute

So quick math says 263,000 minutes in 6 months x $0.50 = $131,500

That is just to keep the ice being ice, based on what it takes in the winter. (I’m sure that .50 goes up real quick with every tick above freezing temp)
Compare that to 4,000 a month that you’d see at your local rink.

This also doesn’t include actual maintenance and labor.
Or how many times you plan to melt and start up that bad boy a year. You don’t have to for basketball, but the stadium wouldn’t make sense without football, soccer or baseball which would have problems just trying to cover an ice surface fully frozen for their games.

That would make the melting and freezing again at least happen 9 times a year (Based off Calgary Stampede sharing the stadium)

And here’s the kicker. It’s very unlikely the Wranglers own that stadium. So imagine that rent.

My point? I have none I just thought my useless research shouldn’t go completely useless. Please consider a dome though haha!

I love that you have put this much effort into exposing how truly ridiculous this setup is. Where does the money come from? Oil. No expenses are spared when Canadian hockey is on the line.


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