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11/13/2020 2:39 pm  #161


Re: Escalian Football League

ThisIsFine wrote:

I know this is a little late, but could we get a basic rundown of major events in Escalia’s history?

I haven't really thought about major events until you said this, so I think I'll give a rundown after the 10th season is over, which I'll do an overview of the 10 years that passed, which probably will include stuff like overall win%, etc. But I will get back to you on that!

Anyway, the 1968 playoffs....

Ellesby Mariners @ Hadley Gatekeepers 

The budding rivalry between the Mariners and Gatekeepers continues to grow ever more tense, as Hadley is seeking revenge for last year’s loss and a continued perfect season and Ellesby is still seeking their first Cup win. The Gatekeepers started out with the ball, and scored the first points of the game on a 28 yard passing TD from QB Jack Reuter to WR Jimmy Hoek. The Mariners were quick to retaliate, tying the game up on a 8 yard run from RB Wendell Ellis. The game didn’t stay tied, as the next drive from Hadley had them get into the redzone before a sack from Ellesby DL Jacob Cody forced the Gatekeepers to take a 3 point lead into the 2nd.
END OF Q1: 10-7 HAD

On their next drive, the Mariners took the lead for the first time in the game thanks to a 10 yard pass from QB Matt Kollen to WR Dan Hersch. Hadley was stopped for the first time on their drive on back-to-back pass deflections from Defensive MVP DB Raleigh Gibson, and punted it back to the Mariners. They ended up extending their lead on a record breaking 57 yard field goal on the leg of K Marlon Scott. Hadley wanted to tie the game up at 17 before the end of the half, and took nearly the all of the remaining time left to march their way downfield, tying the game up with 10 seconds left in the half on a 2 yard rush by RB Clint Atwood. Ellesby ran out the remaining time in the half, as they would receive the second half kickoff.
END OF Q2: 17-17 TIE

Ellesby looked to retake the lead when they started out with the ball in the 3rd quarter, but not by much as they were stopped outside their 30 and kicked another field goal to take a 3 point lead. The Gatekeepers took hold of the momentum this quarter, as on both of their drives they found the endzone each time, the first on a 14 yard pass from Reuter to Hoek and the second on another pass to TE Anton Meier. Ellesby could not get anything moving on offense this quarter, and continued to struggle as the 3rd quarter turned into the 4th.
END OF Q3: 31-20 HAD

The Mariners’ offensive woes ended temporarily, as their drive that started late in the 3rd had them enter field goal range for the first time since the beginning of the half, and cut the difference to 8 on a 40 yard FG by Scott. The Hadley defense stopped any further progression from the Mariners, as the Gatekeeper offense scored one last TD, a 40 yard run from Atwood, to seal the game and send the ‘Keepers back to the Cup for a chance at their 2nd.
FINAL: 38-23 HAD 


Duvall Dragons @ Norfolk Lumberjacks 

Heavy rains had hit Norfolk the day before the game, and more rain seemed to be on the way during the game, resulting in incredible sloppy field conditions, but the game went on without any delays. The Dragons started out with the ball, but the amount of mud still left on the field halted their progress, taking a field goal to score the first points of the game. The ‘Jacks seemed to get around the muddy conditions better than the Dragons on their first drive, as QB Nathan Slezak found his footing on the field and hit RB Bruno Fontaine on a 5 yard pass to take the lead, and would keep the lead for the rest of the quarter.
END OF Q1: 7-3 NOR

Rain began to fall as the first quarter turned into the second, and it only added to the Dragons’ early game woes, as they struggled in the rain and failed to score another point in this half and had a total of 4 turnovers just in the first half alone, with one fumbled being returned by NOR LB Tim Traviss 47 yards for a TD. The added rain hampered the ‘Jacks offense as well, as Slezak and co. could not find the endzone nor could they get into field goal range for the rest of the half, as both the teams and the fans left the half disappointed at a game where the weather was out of their control.
END OF Q2: 14-3 NOR

The sun came out during halftime and for the beginning of the second half, allowing the Lumberjacks to finally score some more points, taking a field goal to extend their lead by two TD’s. Duvall also finally came out of the gate, with a drive capped off on a 16 yard pass from QB Harold Bauer to WR Alvin Paul. Both teams punted the ball back and forth on their next few possessions, with Norfolk punting it back to Duvall shortly before the end of the quarter.
END OF Q3: 17-10 NOR

The ‘Jacks backed the Dragons up to their own 2 yard line on 3rd down, and then a botched snap resulted in the ball rolling out of the endzone for Duvall, giving 2 points to Norfolk for a safety and also getting the ball back. The Dragons’ defense made their own stand against Lumberjacks, making them go 3 and out and giving the Dragons a second chance. They did well with that chance, getting a quick drive ended by a Bauer pass to WR Abram Radcliff to make the game within reach of Duvall. The Lumberjacks got one chance to keep the ball away from the Dragons and win the game, but Slezak made the only mistake he made all day and threw the ball in the direction of WR Lucas Baumbach, but was intercepted and returned 30 yards back by S Jimmy Walterson to set up the Dragons in field goal range for the win. Although they could have played it safe and just kicked the chip-shot field goal for the win, the Dragons went with the risky play and looked for the endzone. Their risk played off, as with 20 seconds left in the game, Bauer found Radcliff once again to take the lead, and would be the decider as the Dragons muscled their way to their 4th straight Cup appearance.
FINAL: 24-19 DUV 



9th Escalian Cup Preview: Duvall Dragons @ Hadley Gatekeepers 
For the first time in their three matchups against one another for the Cup, Hadley will be the home team. Hadley has the momentum leading into Tallokope City, while Duvall struggled against a team of their caliber, even though the game was played in horrible conditions. 
Escalian Sports Magazine Prediction: Duvall won’t be able to defend their Cup title, as the Gatekeepers will cap off their perfect season with a Cup victory, possibly becoming one of the greatest teams of all time. 31-10 HAD 



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11/13/2020 5:04 pm  #162


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Loving the Hadley and Duvall rivalry!  This is, I believe their 3rd time against each other?  Always great to see!  I'm goin' with Hadley with the predicted win!  Maybe after this year, Norfolk will get back on track and make another championship appearance!




 

11/15/2020 7:48 pm  #163


Re: Escalian Football League

9th Escalian Cup: Duvall Dragons @ Hadley Gatekeepers 



Compared to the mugginess of the games last week, the weather in TC was nearly pristine; sunny weather, temps in the mid-50’s, and pretty much perfect for the third Cup matchup between the Gatekeepers and Dragons in the last 4 years. Hadley won the opening coin toss, and chose to differ. With their opening possession, the Dragons found the endzone after two great passes from QB Harold Bauer to WR Abram Radcliff set them up on the 5 yard line, allowing RB Carson Adams to plow in to take an early 7-0 lead. The ‘Keepers offense did what they did best all season, and cruised to back-to-back touchdowns this quarter, the first on a spectacular 70 yard pass from MVP QB Jack Reuter to WR Andrew Padmore, and the second TD on a longer drive and scored on a 1 yard plunge by FB Arthur Blackburn, taking a 14-7 lead as Duvall could not get past the Hadley defense for the remainder of the quarter.
END OF Q1: 14-7 HAD

Even though the Dragons could not get past the defense in the first, they certainly got past them in the second quarter, as their first drive in the 2nd resulted in another Adams rush in to tie the game up at 14. Momentum continued to shift to Duvall’s favor, as on the next drive for Hadley on 2nd down, Reuter handed the ball off to RB Clint Atwood, who was stuffed at the line of scrimmage and fumbled in the scrum, which also saw Atwood getting carted off the field with a shoulder injury. The Dragons took the opportunity to score once more, as Bauer landed a 25 yard pass right in the hands of WR Alvin Paul to take a 7 point lead. Hadley, with one of their key players now out of the game, worked with what they had and went pass-heavy for the remainder of the half, tying the game back up at 21 on a 13 yard pass from Reuter to Padmore. Duvall then had the ball with 1:30 left in the half, and looked to do something with it to take a lead going into halftime. They quickly got past midfield, but stalled out at the 30 and took a field goal to go up by 3 as the half expired.
END OF Q2: 24-21 DUV

Hadley started out the half on a mediocre note on offense, failing to reach the endzone on two consecutive trips and forced to make two field goals, which did let them retake the lead by 3. Any momentum the Dragons had rolling into the second half was quickly squashed by the Hadley defense, as they laid an egg this quarter caused by both the defensive stops and a multitude of mistakes by the offense. Hadley kept on rolling on offense, as Reuter found his other receiver Jimmy Hoek for a 2 yard TD to increase their lead to 10.
END OF Q3: 34-24 HAD

The final quarter was a slower quarter than the other ones, as Hadley toned down their offense as a result of the struggling Dragons offense. That didn’t stop the Gatekeepers from adding on another TD, capping off a long and clock-chewing drive with a 4 yard TD pass from Reuter to TE Anton Meier to cap their lead at 20. The Dragons continued their offensive woes as the ‘Keepers cruised on with the game, and as time expired,  Hadley would finish as the first ever team to go perfect in a season at a 12-0 regular season and 2-0 in the postseason. 
FINAL: 41-24 HAD 



By no one’s surprise, Hadley QB Jack Reuter won his second Escalian Cup MVP, putting up records for most passing touchdowns in the Cup at 4 and most passing yards in the game at 368 yards. Reuter caps off probably one of the best single-seasons by a QB by having almost 4800 passing yards and 40 passing TD’s throughout the season with his name printed on the Escalian Cup for the 2nd time. “I don’t think it can get any better than this,” He said in a post-game interview, “This may have been the best season I’ve ever participated in, but it doesn’t mean it’s the end for me. There’s still more to accomplish, more to achieve that I don’t think I’ll be retiring early any time soon.”  

UP NEXT: 1968-69 Offseason, 10th Season Festivities, 11th & 12th Escalian Cup Vote



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11/20/2020 12:42 pm  #164


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1968-69 Offseason

Uniform Changes:
The League unveiled its 10th anniversary patch, which will be worn on the right shoulder of all uniforms this season


The only other change uniform-wise was made by Hadley, who added a second star to their patch to celebrate their win, with the patch on the right shoulder as example.


1969 Entry Draft:

1st - Augusta: RB Daniel McNabb (University of Pattal)
2nd - Kierport: LB Thomas Rowe (Kier University)
3rd - Orcaster: QB Rudy Aleshire (Montagrada University)
4th - Homestead: DB Earl Grossi (University of Pascoa)
5th - Tallokope City: DB Roger Breckinridge (Pascoa Provincial)
6th - Saint Blaise: OL Alexis Schumacher (Kier University)
7th - Adelaide: DB Xavier Castelo (Bristol University)
8th - Ashonta: LB Eric Hamilton (University of Pascoa)
9th - Ellesby: DB Stefan Hurst (Bristol University)
10th - Norfolk: OL Francis Brisbois (Toukier Provincial)
11th - Duvall: OL Patrick Marlow (Tallokope University)
12th - Hadley:OL Christian Wernher (Tallokope University) 

Player/Coach Movement: 
No coaches were let go this offseason, although fans in Augusta have been protesting for the replacement of the entire front office and coaching staff, but owner Wilfrid Charles is rather reluctant to let them go after winning them the 4th Cup. 

Orcaster is cleaning out the house in the process of a rebuild, and shipped off some of their stars to begin it. Some highlights of their transactions this offseason include WR Jordan Samson was traded to Ashonta in exchange for a 2nd round pick in the 1969 draft and a 3rd rounder in the 1970, and most notably sent 1964 1st rounder LB Jamie Thatcher to Adelaide for a 1st round pick in 1970 and a 2nd round pick in the 1969 draft.  

Retirements:
Three notable players put on their uniforms for the last time in 1968. These players were: 

Gabriel Sydney (RB ORC 1956-1960, AUG 1961-1968):
After assisting the Racers to the 1st Escalian Cup and then fumbling the game away in Adelaide’s favor, Sydney found new life as the main back in the Bulls’ roster. He helped the Bulls to their first, and currently only, Cup appearance and victory in the 4th Cup, where he won game MVP.
 
Paul Dane (QB KIE 1953-1968):
The Dane Train has left the station for the final time this season. This future Hall of Famer finishes his career with the most rushing yards by a QB at 3,267, 1961 Offensive Player of the Year, 1962 MVP, 1962 Escalian Cup MVP, and 2 Escalian Cups in the trophy case for Kierport. 
 
Adrian Norris (QB ORC 1959-1968):
Norris was a key player on the 1960 Racers team that got them to the 1st Cup, but was largely seen as a one-year wonder in the league, never eclipsing the mark he set in that inaugural season and walks off as what many think as wasted potential for a one-and-done Racers squad.
 

TV Deal: 
When the EBN signed on the broadcast all EFL games back before the 1960 began, they had signed a deal set to expire after the 1969 season. Instead of shaking on the EBN’s proposal of a 5 year, $1.65 million per year deal for sole broadcasting rights, the Owner’s Council instead decided to open the deal to any network, which has evolved into a massive bidding war that has lasted all of last season and has bled into this offseason. Three stations have brought up deals, including the National Broadcasting Service (NBS) offering to split games with the EBN for a 3 year test contract at $1.5 million per year, the National Television Company (NTC) also offered a similar deal to NBS but had a longer deal at 6 years worth $2.15 million per year, and the Escalian Broadcasting Company (EBC), who owned local stations across most of Escalia and wanted some local deals instead of being broadcasted by a single company. After months of tense debates, the Council to take the cheaper split-deal option with NBS and EBN, with each network signing a 4 year, $6.2 million contract for broadcasting rights, and each network broadcasting the Escalian Cup every other year, with the deal beginning in 1970 with EBN broadcasting the Cup in even years and NBS in the odd years. The Council would also sign a minor 2 year test contract with EBC and its local stations worth $2 million for rights to broadcast games in local markets not already covered by EBN or NBS. The NTC was the odd man out, allegedly having its contract thrown out at the 11th hour after seemingly being the prime candidate. Rumors circulated that NTC founder and owner George Curtis wanted either partial or full ownership of a team, and had tried to negotiate getting ownership as part of the clause, which may have been why NTC representatives were escorted out of league headquarters in Hadley before settling a deal with NBS and EBC. 
 
11th & 12th Escalian Cup Host Vote:
The vote for the 11th Cup will be limited to the other 4 cities that tied with TC for host, being Hadley, Homestead, Saint Blaise, and Orcaster. The 12th Cup vote will have the same cities as the 9th minus TC as they won that vote, with the previous 4 cities mentioned being joined by Ashonta. Below are the synopses for the cities in both votes:

Harbour Coliseum - Hadley - Capacity: 52,900 (Ranked 6th in Capacity)
Hadley is home to the league’s offices, and holding it in what is essentially their backyard is a good way to experiment with neutral site games. With Hadley’s perfect season in the wraps, the league could keep the hype around them strong by holding the Cup here.
Speedway Sports Park - Orcaster - Capacity 55,555 (Ranked 3rd in Capacity)
The largest stadium that has yet to host a Cup, the Racers’ ownership has been constantly renovating the stadium to make it an all-in-one destination, as the field is built into the Orcaster Speedway infield, which can allow for more temporary setting if needed. Orcaster is struggling on the field at the moment, so bringing the Cup here could help ease some tension on the team.
Brown County Stadium - Ashonta - Capacity 40,000 (Ranked 12th in Capacity)
Currently the smallest stadium in the EFL, the city is still looking to host the Cup so they have a chance to build a bigger and better field that could hold more Cups in the future. With a Miners team on the rise, there may be a chance that they could appear in their home stadium like what Ellesby did in the 8th Cup
Cathedral Field - Saint Blaise - Capacity 49,625 (Ranked 8th in Capacity)
The Angels’ field is becoming more and more famous for its astonishing architecture, and hosting the Cup will allow for the team to expand upon it and become one of the league’s best stadiums. The Angels are stuck in mediocrity at this time, so the additional revenue would help them rise out the the bottom of the North and become a good team.
Frontier Stadium - Homestead - Capacity 47,960 (Ranked 9th in Capacity)
Hosting a Cup at the Reapers’ home can help solidify the eastward push that the league has been going for in its recent expansions, hopefully bringing more fans into the league. With expansion being in the works at the moment, bringing football out east to Homestead can help finalize the process and make it go smoother 

Link to Google Forms Here

I'll close off the poll on Monday, so get your votes in before then!
 

Last edited by DireBear (11/20/2020 11:13 pm)



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11/20/2020 10:28 pm  #165


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So Escalia has three television networks, right?

Of those three, which one(s) are subsidized by the Escalian government and which are part of the private sector?

 

11/20/2020 11:25 pm  #166


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NeoPrankster wrote:

So Escalia has three television networks, right?

Of those three, which one(s) are subsidized by the Escalian government and which are part of the private sector?

There's currently 4 major networks that have been mentioned: EBN(private but subsidized by the goverment), NBS(private), NTC (private), and EBC(fully owned by the government). NTC is the largest and technically the oldest of the 4, tracing its roots back to 1920 when it was founded as the Escalian National Broadcasting Company as a radio network, eventually merging with another company, Curtis Radio Broadcasting, in 1939 and turned to television and never stopped growing from there. NTC is currently the largest TV network in the nation, with EBN coming in 2nd, EBC in 3rd, and NBS in 4th. 

Hope that answers your question and I'm glad you're enjoying the series!

P.S. This TV deal should be the catalyst for a lot of things to come in the future, mainly to deal with NTC owner George Curtis, so stay tuned for what's to come



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11/21/2020 12:16 am  #167


Re: Escalian Football League

How’s soccer, what are the top clubs currently, and how far back does it go?




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11/21/2020 12:27 am  #168


Re: Escalian Football League

DireBear wrote:

NeoPrankster wrote:

So Escalia has three television networks, right?

Of those three, which one(s) are subsidized by the Escalian government and which are part of the private sector?

There's currently 4 major networks that have been mentioned: EBN(private but subsidized by the goverment), NBS(private), NTC (private), and EBC(fully owned by the government). NTC is the largest and technically the oldest of the 4, tracing its roots back to 1920 when it was founded as the Escalian National Broadcasting Company as a radio network, eventually merging with another company, Curtis Radio Broadcasting, in 1939 and turned to television and never stopped growing from there. NTC is currently the largest TV network in the nation, with EBN coming in 2nd, EBC in 3rd, and NBS in 4th. 

Hope that answers your question and I'm glad you're enjoying the series!

P.S. This TV deal should be the catalyst for a lot of things to come in the future, mainly to deal with NTC owner George Curtis, so stay tuned for what's to come

Now, of those four, which would you say is closer to the BBC in the UK or PBS in America?

 

11/23/2020 3:56 pm  #169


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NeoPrankster wrote:

Now, of those four, which would you say is closer to the BBC in the UK or PBS in America?

EBN is the closest thing to PBS in the States, and the EBC is pretty much like the BBC. 

ThisIsFine wrote:

How’s soccer, what are the top clubs currently, and how far back does it go?

Soccer has been a staple in Escalia ever since British immigrants brought the sport shortly after the invention of the sport in the late 19th century. Organized soccer in Escalia only goes back to 1946 with the establishment of the ESA (Escalian Soccer Association), where the best teams in the nation face off for the chance to win the Thorsten Cup, named after then-PM Hugh Thorsten for help with organizing the sport in the nation. The current top teams in the flight are Norfolk SC, coming of winning back-to-back championships the past two years, Marine SC (Ellesby), who has the most Thorsten Cups in their trophy case with 5, Capital City (Adelaide), who have been perenial contenders every year but have no silverware in their trophy cabinet yet to prove their success, and Sporting Decontro (Decontro City), who hold the second most Thorsten Cups at 4 and came second this past year. As for the World Cup, the National Team was eliminated in the group stage in 1962, made it to the Quarter-Finals in '66 before being squashed by Portugal, and look to make it past the Quarter-Finals in the next World Cup in 1970.

With that out of the way, here are the hosts for the next 5 (yes, 5) Escalian Cups! Orcaster won the vote for the 10th and Homestead won the vote for the 11th, with Hadley coming in with the 12th, Saint Blaise being awarded the 13th, and Ashonta (the only team who hasn't hosted/ or been given a Cup at this point) was awarded with the 14th Cup. Starting with the 15th Cup vote, the hosts will be limited to 2-3 instead of 4-5 as now every team currently has or is slated to host a Cup.



The 1969 Season will be up tomorrow! Stayed tuned!



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11/24/2020 10:53 am  #170


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1969 Season



North Division 
It was a three-way dog fight for the North Division title between Ashonta, Ellesby, and Hadley. The Miners surprisingly swept the defending champions in the Gatekeepers in their regular season matchups, as well as splitting their games with the Mariners, resulting in both the Miners and Mariners going into week 12 tied at 8-2-1, where they would face each other to determine the division winner. Only problem for the loser of that game was that the Gatekeepers were at 8-3, so only a win against the Racers at home would clinch their playoff berth. The game for the North Division title was not even close, as the Miners and Offensive Player of the Year QB Daniel Haumann rocked the Mariners 31-7 to clinch their first division title in franchise history, and then worried Mariners fans prayed that the ‘Keepers lose so they could get in the playoffs. Luckily for them, the Racers-Gatekeepers game was extremely close, as the Racers tore out to an early lead before Hadley stormed back to tie the game at 20 in the final few minutes of the game. The Racers ended up with the ball last, and punched in a field goal to play spoiler and kick Hadley out of the playoffs for the first time since 1962. Besides those three teams, the other three weren’t much of a story. The Saints started out the year at 2-1, but quickly fell off and finished at .500. The Racers’ sole moment of this year was their upset victory over the ‘Keepers, but were sloppy on the field that saw them lose 6 straight games. Kierport saw their worst season yet, as former ROTY RB Robert Underwood was injured in week 2 and had no momentum the rest of the season.  

South Division
Duvall was expected to compete for the South Division title against Adelaide and Norfolk, but lost their key offensive piece in former MVP QB Harold Bauer going down in week 4 to a leg injury, and would not return until the last week of the season, going 2-5 in his absence. He returned to beat the Reapers to avoid being in last place, but they were already out of the playoff race. The Owls and Lumberjacks took over the division race from there, as ADL QB Terry Rogers redeemed himself from his days in Norfolk by winning MVP, and new acquisition LB Jamie Thatcher strengthened their defense by snagging DPOY from Raleigh Gibson of Ellesby, who finished third in voting this year. Coming in second was Norfolk rookie DL Darren Abrahams, who took the league by storm by reinvigorating the Norfolk defensive line who kept opposing offenses to a league-low 19.8 points per game, the lowest since Adelaide’s dominant defense earlier in the decade. The other three teams weren’t too much to talk about; the Reapers had  a season to forget, the Bulls even more so after owner Wilfrid Charles passed away mid-season at age 81 and not having any offspring to pass the team along to, so the team will be sold in the offseason. The Anchors had a mediocre season, although it technically was their best season by far, even though they’ve never had a season above .500 yet. 

Awards
Most Valuable Player: QB Terry Rogers (ADL) 
Most Valuable Coach: Jeb Thompson (ADL) (x2)
Most Outstanding Offensive Player: QB Daniel Baumann (ASH)
Most Outstanding Defensive Player: LB Jamie Thatcher (ADL)
Most Outstanding Rookie: DL Darren Abrahams (NOR)

Playoff Preview

Ellesby Mariners @ Ashonta Miners 
These two teams just face off the week prior, so this game looks to be especially fierce. The Miners look to make a statement and not be embarrassed in the postseason again, while the Mariners have to face another roadblock in order to get to the Cup again and win.
Escalian Sports Magazine Prediction: This game is honestly a toss up. Despite how last week’s game was a crushing defeat for the Mariners, their other matchup resulted in a tie game. If there had to be a winner in this game, it would come down to the Mariners having more playoff experience than the Miners, seeing them go to their second Cup. 24-23 ELB 

Norfolk Lumberjacks @ Adelaide Owls 
Adelaide have looked nigh unstoppable in the regular season, only falling to Duvall in week 2 and resting their starters in week 12 to narrowly lose to the Anchors. Norfolk has not beat the Owls all season, and has struggled at points during the season. Besides that, we get to see the first playoff matchup between QB’s Terry Rogers and Nathan Slezak, who were both on the ‘Jacks for the 1966 season, where Slezak uprooted Rogers for the starting spot, and Rogers was traded to the Owls where he’s seen a career revival leading the Owls back to the playoffs for the first time in years. 
Escalian Sports Magazine Prediction: Norfolk will get their act together and finally beat the Owls this year, as they get another chance to win the Cup. 17-13 NOR 



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