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5/18/2020 8:17 pm  #1


The Story of Driveball

Hello. I'm sure some of you guys remember my Driveball threads from the old CCSLC Sports Fan Fiction forum.

Without further ado, let's begin...

Killian "Cubby" Dempsey (b. 1917) was once a backup quarterback for the Chicago Bears, sitting behind the legendary Sid Luckman. During his brief tenure, Dempsey saw limited action, if at all. Only one game did he start. That was in 1941 at Wrigley Field against the Chicago Cardinals, but only due to Luckman injuring his elbow against the Cleveland Rams the week before.

A year later, the United States was thrust into World War II. Athletes in all sports were drafted to serve their country and those who remained at home faced a diluted talent pool.

Dempsey served in the Pacific Theater for much of the war. On a visit to Australia, he came across a hybrid sport called Austus. It was a combination of Gridiron and Australian Rules Football played by soldiers from both countries. Less than ten exhibitions were played throughout 1943 and into 1944, but the action left a inseparable impression in Dempsey's mind.

After the war, Dempsey returned to his native Chicago. Meanwhile in Australia, the game of Austus disappeared almost overnight. Working at a bar during the day, Dempsey spent his spare time, well into midnight, laying out the rules for his version of Austus.

By early 1946 Dempsey pitched his new idea to the Chicago Tribune's then-sports editor Arch Ward [1]. Concerned that the public would struggle to pronounce "Austus" correctly, Ward suggested a new, snappier name. Thus, Driveball [2] was born. 

[1] Mr. Ward was instrumental in helping form the All America Football Conference.
[2] Originally spelled as "Drive-Ball" according to early registrations with the United States Patent and Trademark Office.

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The game would be played on a field identical to the size of an American football field. The 25 yard lines would serve as the Quarter Lines and the 50 yard line would become the Halfway Line. The football endzones would serve a different purpose in this new game.

FIELD
120 yards long.
Quarter Lines: The lines that separate the midfield from the defensive and attack zones. Depending on which direction a team is attacking, the forwards and defenders much line up on the coordinating quarter line at the ball-up.
Halfway Line: The line where the midfielders line up to start the game.
Center Circle: Only one midfielder from each team can line up inside the center circle before the opening ball-up.

GENERAL RULES
Team with the highest score wins.
Games are played with 20 minute quarters for an 80 minute game.
Substitutions are unlimited.

CLOCK
The clock only stops when the following occurs.
- The ball goes out of bounds.
- A player is injured.
- The referee signals a penalty.
- Time expires for each quarter.
- A team scores.
- A timeout is called. Each team gets three per half.

BALL-UPS and RESTARTING PLAY
- The ball-up occurs at the start of the game.
- After a team scores, the ball-up process starts again.
- After a timeout, a player from the possessing team inbounds the ball from the nearest quarter line, similar to a rugby lineout.

THE BALL ITSELF
- Basically a collegiate or professional size football. The classic brown pebble grained leather. No official manufacturer just yet, as the early days of this game are pretty much the Wild West. Keep in mind, this will evolve over time.
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EQUIPMENT
- Helmets (Leather at the beginning; plastic later on)
- Jerseys.
- Shorts.
- Shoulder, elbow and knee pads.
- Socks.
- Cleats.

ADVANCING THE BALL
- Ball can be passed, kicked or fist-balled (spiked with a clench fist and the ball in the other hand) in any direction.
- The throw can be made similar to the forward pass in American football.
- Six tackles must be recorded to stop a drive and gain possession.
- After running ten yards, a ball carrier must bounce the ball, but only once.
- After a bounce, the ball carrier must pass to a teammate or attempt to score.
- After a tackle, the ball carrier must let go of the ball.
- Defending players can steal or intercept the ball to gain possession for their team.
- A "steal" is when the ball carrier is stripped of the ball and an opposing player recovers.

MARKING THE BALL
- A pass or kick that travels fifteen yards or more can be marked, but only if the ball travels forward depending on the direction a team is attacking.
- For a mark to count, the player must have both feet in bounds and complete control of the ball upon making the catch.
- Defensemen can spoil the mark by deflecting or intercepting a kick or pass.
- Only six consecutive marks are allowed per possession. A seventh mark results in the ball being awarded to the opponent on the nearest quarter line.
- A potential receiver cannot push or shove an opponent in the back while attempting to make the catch.
- Only one player from the possessing team can mark the ball at any one time.
- Once a mark, the referee signals the mark and the receiver can pass to a teammate or attempt to score.
- The opponent nearest to the receiver must retreat five yards on the ref's signal.

TACKLING
- Tackles can only be made at the chest, waist and thigh areas.
- The tackler must wrap his arms around the ball carrier to tackle cleanly.

CHANGES IN POSSESSION
- After six tackles.
- After a penalty kick.
- After a score.
- After an interception or a steal.

FOULS
- Contact above the shoulders or below the knees is prohibited.
- Gamesmanship or "flopping" constitutes an objectionable conduct foul, resulting in a yellow card and a penalty kick awarded to the opposing team.
- Excessive demonstration, such as using obscene language or gestures towards an official also constitutes "unsportsmanlike conduct."
- Tackling an opponent who does not have the ball constitutes unnecessary roughness.
- Carrying the ball outside of the player's designated zone constitutes an offsides call.
- Delay of game.

OFFICIALS
- One Referee: Responsible for the general supervision of the game and makes the final rulings on each call.
- One Umpire: Makes sure each team has eleven men on the field; Records scores and timeouts; Makes sure the players' equipment is within the rules.
- Two Goal Judges at either side of each goal post.
- One Side Judge at either sideline to make sure players have both feet in bounds when making a catch.

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SCORING
- The goal post is shaped like an "H," just like the football goal posts of the late 40's.
- The goal post is placed at the back of the the end zones.
- At either side of the goal post is a behind post which stands ten yards away from each upright.
- Generally, the behind posts stand at half the height of the goal posts.
- For a field goal to count, the ball must fly continuously over the crossbar and through the uprights.
- FIELD GOALS
--- Six points inside the attack quarter line.
--- Nine points beyond the attack quarter line.
- BEHIND
--- One point inside the attack quarter line.
--- Three points beyond the attack quarter line.
- SAFETY
--- Two points to the attacking team if an opposing back takes possession of the ball and tackled by a forward in his own end zone.
- ROUGE POINT
-- Worth one point to the attacking team if a kick or pass bounces untouched out of the end zone.
- PENALTY KICK or CONVERSION AFTER TRY (CAT)
-- Taken at the 10 yard line
-- Worth three points.
- TRY
-- Similar to rugby union and league.
-- Forward must apply downward pressure on the ball in order for a try to count.
-- Worth five points.

UNIFORM NUMBER SYSTEM
- Defense: 65-99
- Midfield: 32-64
- Attack: 00-31
- Three digit numbers could be legalized should the need arise.

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POSITIONS (Based on a modern take on the Austus rules, which you can read about here: LINK)
ATTACK

- FF: Full Forward (Alternate captain)
- HF: Half Forward
- FP: Front Pockets
MIDFIELD
- C: Center (Main team captain)
- W: Wings
DEFENSE
- HB: Halfback
- BP: Back Pocket
- FB: Fullback (Alternate captain)

PLAYERS ON THE FIELD
- 11-a-side on the field at any one time
- Four forwards
- Three midfielders
- Four backs

ROSTER SIZE
- Nine Forwards
- Eight Midfielders
- Nine Backs

COACHING STAFF
- Head Coach
- Forwards' Coach
- Midfielders' Coach
- Backs' Coach
- Trainer

As a quick reminder, the rules of Driveball will evolve with changes approved by the rules committee.

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5/18/2020 10:01 pm  #2


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Yes! Been looking forward to this since day 1 of my membership on here


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5/19/2020 9:38 am  #3


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Driveball is back!


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5/19/2020 3:15 pm  #4


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Before we get into the founding members of Driveball, let's look at how the other sports looked in 1947.

Major League Baseball
American League

Boston Red Sox
Chicago White Sox
Cleveland Indians
Detroit Tigers
New York Yankees
Philadelphia Athletics
St. Louis Browns
Washington Senators

National League
Boston Braves
Brooklyn Dodgers
Chicago Cubs
Cincinnati Reds
New York Giants
Philadelphia Phillies
Pittsburgh Pirates
St. Louis Cardinals

Football
National Football League
Eastern Division

Boston Yanks
New York Giants
Philadelphia Eagles
Pittsburgh Steelers
Washington Redskins

Western Division
Chicago Bears
Chicago Cardinals
Detroit Lions
Green Bay Packers
Los Angeles Rams

All American Football Conference
Eastern Division

Baltimore Colts
Brooklyn Dodgers
Buffalo Bills
New York Yankees

Western Division
Chicago Rockets
Cleveland Browns
Los Angeles Dons
San Francisco 49ers

Basketball
Basketball Association of America
Eastern Division

Boston Celtics
New York Knicks
Philadelphia Warriors
Providence Steamrollers

Western Division
Baltimore Bullets
Chicago Stags
St. Louis Bombers
Washington Capitols

National Basketball League
Eastern Division

Anderson Duffey Packers
Flint Dow AC's
Ft. Wayne Zollner Pistons
Rochester Royals
Syracuse Nationals
Toledo Jeeps

Western Division
Indianapolis Katuskys
Minneapolis Lakers
Oshkosh All Stars
Sheboygan Redskins
Tri-Cities Blackhawks

National Hockey League
Boston Bruins
Chicago Blackhawks
Detroit Red Wings
Montreal Canadiens
New York Rangers
Toronto Maple Leafs

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5/19/2020 3:18 pm  #5


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NeoPrankster wrote:

Before we get into the founding members of Driveball, let's look at how the other sports looked in 1947.

Major League Baseball
American League

Boston Red Sox
Chicago White Sox
Cleveland Indians
Detroit Tigers
New York Yankees
Philadelphia Athletics
St. Louis Browns
Washington Senators

National League
Boston Braves
Brooklyn Dodgers
Chicago Cubs
Cincinnati Reds
New York Giants
Philadelphia Phillies
Pittsburgh Pirates
St. Louis Cardinals

Football
National Football League
Eastern Division

Boston Yanks
New York Giants
Philadelphia Eagles
Pittsburgh Steelers
Washington Redskins

Western Division
Chicago Bears
Chicago Cardinals
Detroit Lions
Green Bay Packers
Los Angeles Rams

All American Football Conference
Eastern Division

Baltimore Colts
Brooklyn Dodgers
Buffalo Bills
New York Yankees

Western Division
Chicago Rockets
Cleveland Browns
Los Angeles Dons
San Francisco 49ers

Basketball
Basketball Association of America
Eastern Division

Boston Celtics
New York Knicks
Philadelphia Warriors
Providence Steamrollers

Western Division
Baltimore Bullets
Chicago Stags
St. Louis Bombers
Washington Capitols

National Basketball League
Eastern Division

Anderson Duffey Packers
Flint Dow AC's
Ft. Wayne Zollner Pistons
Rochester Royals
Syracuse Nationals
Toledo Jeeps

Western Division
Indianapolis Katuskys
Minneapolis Lakers
Oshkosh All Stars
Sheboygan Redskins
Tri-Cities Blackhawks

National Hockey League
Boston Bruins
Chicago Blackhawks
Detroit Red Wings
Montreal Canadiens
New York Rangers
Toronto Maple Leafs

Woah, those are some names that have not been heard since my grandparents were in diapers which is hard to imagine


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5/19/2020 8:10 pm  #6


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In a smoke filled Manhattan hotel room, the Driveball Association of North America (DANA) was officially formed on October 30, 1946.

Cubby Dempsey would step aside to appoint former Cook County prosecutor Tobias Irwin, 56, as the league's inaugural commissioner. In exchange, Dempsey would take stewardship of the franchise slated for his native Chicago.

Soon after, applications began flooding in from all over the Midwest and Northeast. From about 230 applicants, only twelve would make the cut for the inaugural season scheduled for the Spring and Summer of 1948.

For most of 1947, roughly 600 potential players and coaches underwent rigorous training and practice to familiarize themselves with a brand new sport. Many of the prospects were wannabes and other daydream believers that were unable to find their footing in the established major sports (NFL, MLB, NHL, NBL/BAA). Few will earn the privilege to enjoy new life in the new sport.

For the DANA's inaugural season of 1948, the charter members of the league are:

Eastern Division
Albany Capitols
Brooklyn Coasters
Montreal Voyageurs

Newark Bulldogs
New York Heroes
Toronto Titans


Western Division
Buffalo Lakers
Chicago Gaels
Cleveland Mad Hatters
Detroit Roadsters

Fort Wayne Appleseeds
Rochester Millers

The teams in italics are teams coming back from my previous Driveball series.

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5/19/2020 8:12 pm  #7


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Albany Dutch Trappers would make a good name.


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5/19/2020 8:54 pm  #8


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BROOKLYN COASTERS

Venue: Ebbets Field

Nickname:
Brooklyn is home to Coney Island and Steeplechase Park, both of which boast many roller coasters.

Owner:
Ira Finkleman, a 46 year old leisure tycoon. His Finkleman Amusements firm purchased the struggling Steeplechase Park and Coney Island with hopes of nursing both facilities back to health after the war demolished park attendance.

Staff:
Head Coach:
Frankie Sugar, 35. A former Syracuse quarterback whose football dreams were crushed in 1934 by a knee injury sustained in his first game with the Pittsburgh Pirates (now the Steelers).
Director of Driveball Operations: Elmer Dennis, 37. Former minor league baseball player in the St. Louis Browns farm system.
Forwards' Coach: Clyde Anderson, 34. Played for the Steagles and Card-Pitt in the NFL while his teammates went off to war.
Midfielders' Coach: Glen Albright, 38. Played in the NFL for the Chicago Cardinals from 1932 till '34.
Backs' Coach: Leo Duffy, 36. Former linebacker at Notre Dame.
Trainer: Dr. Ted Weaver, 50. Former Naval medical officer.

PLAYERS
Forwards
21 - Dick Wolcott
29 - Art Lounsbery
15 - Leslie Mahoney
25 - Russell Chandler
23 - Jack Schmidt
19 - Larry Simmons
2 - Frankie Driscoll
16 - Dean Berg
31 - Leon Price

Midfielders
33 - Bob Curran
35 - Sidney Larsen
34 - Douglas Olsen
39 - Jackie Erickson
57 - Martin Burke
41 - Jim Rosen
49 - Larry Moran
58 - Moe Foster

Backs
82 - Roy Bowman
88 - Horatio Trout
78 - Wendell McCall
92 - Ted Hawkins
75 - Neil Harvey
81 - Jesse Sellers
68 - Frank Gilmore
93 - Terry Simpson
86 - Eugene Mays

UNIFORM AND LOGO
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5/19/2020 10:16 pm  #9


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I like Brooklyn. For names here my suggestions
Albany- Capitols (Albany is the capital of New York)
Newark- Atlantics (The Dodgers were the Atlantics a long time ago, and New Joisey is on the Atlantic ocean so...)
Rochester- Red Birds (Baseball there is traditionally the Red Wings so why not?)

 


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5/19/2020 10:40 pm  #10


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ALBANY CAPITOLS

Venue: Hawkins Stadium

Owner: Cletus Van De Kamp, 59, a local hardware store owner.

Nickname: Van De Kamp planned on naming the team the "Dutch Boys" after the popular house paint brand that he sold at his hardware store. After the proposed name was mercilessly ridiculed by local sportswriters, Van De Kamp quietly changed the name to the "Capitols."

STAFF
Head Coach:
Lou Geronimi
General Manager: Guy Stevenson
Forwards Coach: Dean Hayden
Midfielders Coach: Herman Grant
Backs Coach: Dan Melton
Trainer: Dr. Roland Sutherland

PLAYERS
Forwards

20 - Alex Horner
27 - Victor Starr
3 - Milt Snow
26 - Lloyd Gleason
13 - Cecil Crawford
19 - Wayne Camp
11 - David Newell
21 - Samuel Kimball
18 - Gene Giles

Midfielders
56 - Walt Tozier
33 - Karl Tracy
49 - Bobby Kelley
55 - Harvey Cole
43 - Bennie O'Neal
41 - Oscar Ball
48 - Donald Richmond
52 - Clarence Birch

Backs
70 - Claude Bentley
90 - Leroy Marsh
78 - Charles Geisel
83 - Homer Feldman
66 - Ted Bowers
62 - Ray Campbell
93 - Chester Manning
95 - Theo Bloom
94 - Joe Denton

UNIFORM AND LOGO
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