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5/31/2020 9:09 pm  #541


Re: AltFL - Design Thread

AltFL Fans! 

Get excited for tomorrow! We will reveal the uniforms for the first two teams.  We are heading to the Lone Star State to visit the Bandits and Phantoms. 


 
 

5/31/2020 9:36 pm  #542


Re: AltFL - Design Thread

MyTeamIsDr.Pepper wrote:

Don't want to sway votes or anything, but Orlando really surprised me, I had trouble coming up with stuff but it ended up becoming my favorite group, I think it does have a clear best design but each option was pretty good. Birmingham was good too. 

Stickman wrote:

I'll save my team by team analysis for tomorrow, as usual.  However, I have to say this now as we are still designing team uniforms.  I'd personally suggest is to keep the main color of the team's logo in mind when we are designing the helmets. 

I've seen a few of these Alt South Division teams where the helmet and logo are the same color.  This causes the logo to get somewhat lost in the helmet, (for example, both of the Copperhead options have copper helmets.  Since the copperhead logo is also copper, that logo blends in with the helmet, especially if you are looking at it from a smaller screen).  For reference, I'd suggest checking out the NFL team's helmets compared to the logos they use on the helmets.  The logo on the helmet is almost always a different color than the helmet's color, which helps the logo stand out more.  

EDIT: Since I forgot to bring this up earlier, outlines should be considered too in this argument.   In Gritty's Thunderducks design above this post, the helmet is yellow, as is the duck.  However, because it's in a navy circle with a white and a second navy outline surrounding that, obviously that's less of a problem that the helmet and logo are the same color.  Just saying that part now because it'll probably be brought up otherwise.

Again, just saying this now as we are still in the design phase of these uniforms and this could help make what already are great uniforms even better!  Contrary to what I just said, I do really like these a lot!

I disagree about Tennessee, I think, much like the Houston Texans or the Atlanta Falcons, it's one of the few instances where a copper helmet works with a primarily copper logo. I do agree that it should be avoided but in this case I do like it. You can't not do a copper helmet for a team named the Copperheads.

I do agree that a copper helmet makes more than enough sense for a team called the copperheads. Truth be told, I hadn't ever considered any other color for the helmet.  However while I get your argument with the Texans and Falcons, I don't think the AltFL's Copperheads are quite in the same category. 

Just to explain more thoroughly where I'm coming from, I'll go in detail.  The Falcons have a much thicker outline and have red in the logo to help the mostly black logo stand out against the black helmet.  The Texans are an interesting team for me.  I actually wish they didn't have the navy helmet, (I always wished they had used a white helmet instead).  And while I also would argue their logo's outline isn't sufficient enough for them either, they do utilize quite a lot of red and white in the logo which, again, helps the logo stand out.  

Personally, I just don't think the Copperheads' outline is enough and without any additional colors, the logo blends in to me.   

Heh, that was fun!  I always like having the occasional argument!  No offense meant by anything of course!




 

6/01/2020 3:47 pm  #543


Re: AltFL - Design Thread

It is time to board the AltFL Tour bus and embark on a North American trek from city to city to reveal our 24 franchises' identities.  

From the Friday night lights of high school football to Saturdays at the Cotton Bowl.  From Hook Em Horns, to Gig Em Aggies.  From Sic Em Bears to Fear the Frog.  To Jerry's World with America's Team.  Staubach and Tony Dorsett to Neon Deon Sanders to the feared Triplets of the 90s.  No matter where you turn - football is apart of the Texan way of life.  Fittingly enough, we start our virtual bus tour in the heart of Texas with Dallas and San Antonio.  

It is my honor to present the Dallas Bandits.  They were designed by TheHealthiestScratch. Quick note: The Colts/UCLA stripes on the shoulder are especially difficult with this particular template.  I am working on it but you get the idea. Won with 89.1% of the votes.   





 


 
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6/01/2020 3:49 pm  #544


Re: AltFL - Design Thread

Next we go to the Alamo City where the people talk about only one thing...Phantoms Football.  TheHealthiestScratch also won - truly leaving his mark on the State of Texas.  He won this entry with 75.6% of the vote.  I think both of this uniforms will sell pretty well on the AltFL Online Store!


 
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6/01/2020 4:03 pm  #545


Re: AltFL - Design Thread

Well, time to give my thoughts on the winners for the Texan teams!

Dallas: I chose option A for them, as it was the better design between the two. Although I do like the home combo on B's, the overall design is just too plain in my opinion. Although no stripes can be done well (see the Raiders in the NFL), here it does not stand out compared to the winner's design.

San Antonio: It surprises me how similar my entry (option B) was to the winner. Although I think either are great designs, Scratch's entry was the better executed one. I thought mine may have a fighting chance, but the lettering and sleeve stripes were done better, so it doesn't surprise me that the percentage of votes they got were much greater than I expected.

Great job Scratch for sweeping Texas! Can't wait to see the rest of the division!



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6/01/2020 4:03 pm  #546


Re: AltFL - Design Thread

That’s awesome! The SA fit was my first go at football and it has kept me going on these, they are very fun to do! I think the UCLA type stripe (LSU was actually more touched on for me) looks the way it is meant to look. Quick question, was I breaking a rule making the black helmet have a logo that was only orange? I see the standard colored logo is on it.

Also, unbelievable conversion of the number detail for SA.

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6/01/2020 4:04 pm  #547


Re: AltFL - Design Thread

Great Job Thehealthiestscratch on both uniforms, they look great!
Definitely a huge fan of the Phantoms' entire brand, it is fantastic. 


 

6/01/2020 4:18 pm  #548


Re: AltFL - Design Thread

Dallas' not white (is that cream? beige? tan-ish?) aways are wonderful, and the Phantoms are great. I love the numbers on San Antonio,



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6/01/2020 4:28 pm  #549


Re: AltFL - Design Thread

Thehealthiestscratch wrote:

That’s awesome! The SA fit was my first go at football and it has kept me going on these, they are very fun to do! I think the UCLA type stripe (LSU was actually more touched on for me) looks the way it is meant to look. Quick question, was I breaking a rule making the black helmet have a logo that was only orange? I see the standard colored logo is on it.

Also, unbelievable conversion of the number detail for SA.

Honestly, I totally forgot to switch it back.  I'll get on it.  


 
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6/01/2020 4:51 pm  #550


Re: AltFL - Design Thread

For some reason it is hard to quote multiple users for me so I'll just hope you see them.

DireBear & Wallflower - Thanks! I appreciate it.

Dan O'Mac - I am not sure, I just took it from the outline of the logo. I'll let the creator decide, but I hope it is corny and Western themed like "Standoff Dust" or something weird. And I was lucky to find the SA numbers, I was going to pass on them because the actual font is eh, but it felt western and completely different from the standard one Dallas uses. I loved the 2.

Gritty - No big deal, was just wondering so I didn't do something I wasn't supposed to do for later submissions. 
 



 

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